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  • diddydontplay77 Jul 10, 4:03 p.m.
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    Well said my friend, your command of the Kings English is unprecedented. Most people believe your rantings emanate from a cerebrally challenged derelict, however, I recognize the pure brilliance in your posts. Please, just have your Parole Officer mail me the coupons so you won't be delayed in your travels. And remember, raking leaves doesn't require you to climb a tree first........I don't want you hurt in the preseason again!!!

  • hsfb man Jul 10, 11:28 a.m.
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    Hey ,DIDDYDONTPLAY77,when da flock and I fly into RDU AUG 25, on da way 2 Raiders stadium in Rockingham we will stop by d Macdonald in Morrisville on Carpenter road and leave a couple of buy 1 get 1 free Happy meal Coupons at d counter 4 u. SEE YOU AT RAIDERS STADIUM.

  • uBnice Jul 9, 12:12 p.m.
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    Wake County schools carry the East side's hopes for 4A/4AA champions. I am hoping that Coach Lucas leads the East side to the next level by going with a balanced offense. Though I do not care for this East vs West chiding we on the East side get, if we must then go East!

  • teammugs Jul 9, 1:47 a.m.
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    I've got a couple of games scoped out...looks like a good year....

  • deadeyejoe Jul 8, 2:51 p.m.
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    Can't wait mugs. We're at y'all's place on Sept 8.

  • mississippiboy47 Jul 8, 10:35 a.m.
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    Lol I started this post because I was excited about the game. And you guys turn it into a stupid argument. Man.

  • teammugs Jul 7, 11:26 p.m.
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    Good to see Wake teams branching out to bigger and better out of league competition...those undefeated records look good going into the playoffs, but goose eggs in the final aren't as impressive...the bar was raised last year...let's see if the teams can keep it up...Deadeye...see ya soon...

  • diddydontplay77 Jul 7, 9:58 p.m.
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    LOL😂....well played....you made laugh!! (But seriously........don't forget my fries 🍟 next time or I will beat the snot out of you)😂

  • hsfb man Jul 7, 8:18 p.m.
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    We're committed 2 these games already.
    Mallard Creek @ Scotland Aug 17th
    Wake Forest @ Richmond Aug 25th
    Don Bosco Prep @ Byrnes Sept.1st and lots more 2 follow, stay tuned.

  • nepsy7 Jul 7, 7:03 p.m.
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    48 teams in the playoffs 4A & 4AA no longer 64. 24 teams each going to 4A & 4AA,
    Which will push some teams down to 4A

    Wake Forest Admin numbers @ 1991 and only 24 teams in 4AA can definitely drop them into 4A, Along with Vance, Jack Britt, East Forsyth, Heritage, Harding,,,etc

    I know a lot of fan's were projecting Scotland with everyone returning and with Dudley & CC leaving as a lock. Not so fast! Very Deep in 4A

  • hsfb man Jul 7, 6:20 p.m.
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    Dinner Time, Big Mac,and YOUR FRIES off of da $1.00 menu

  • diddydontplay77 Jul 7, 6:17 p.m.
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    GO BEARS....3 Time State Champ!!!....Don't mess with Diddy cuz Diddy Don't Play!!!

  • hsfb man Jul 7, 6:00 p.m.
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    AGAIN. THAT' WHY HSFB MAN, and D FLOCK LOVES good hard hitting football. GO BEARS ,WE WILL RISE AGAIN and B DA KING........................................................
    .

  • diddydontplay77 Jul 7, 5:52 p.m.
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    HSFB Man......I recognize you now. The next time I'm in McDonalds you better get my order right and not forget the fries 🍟. You've done that three times in a row now!!! How difficult is it to remember the Fries 🍟?? I understand that McDonalds employs the mentally challenged and that job gives you a sense of purpose in life but maybe you should go back to just wiping off the tables.

  • hsfb man Jul 7, 3:19 p.m.
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    DIDDYDONPLAY77 what does he even know, besides sitting at d RDU airport watching da planes take off and land over MORRISVILLE on Runway 05L,23R, 05R, AND 23L. COME AGAIN.

  • john56 Jul 7, 12:50 p.m.
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    Scotland needs to focus on the task at hand with their schedule they could easily be 2-2 or worst at the start of the season. Thinking about or looking at wake forest would be a huge mistake. This team still needs a qb, some form of a modern day passing game and continued improvement in the secondary. If they get that they will be as good as anyone in any classification in the state. If not well - things will be red hot in SC.

  • diddydontplay77 Jul 6, 4:27 p.m.
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    Nepsey thinks Wake Forest will drop down to 4A this year due to a large number of teams with higher admin numbers. If this happens, Scotland will want to take a close look at the WF/Richmond game since WF and Scotland would most likely meet in the playoffs.

  • btango Jun 14, 4:48 p.m.
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    UBNICE, both teams were balanced and could throw the ball. Butler's 2007 QB started some games at Illinois as a redshirt freshman against Big 10 comp and was the conference O Player of the Week one year. The running back from 2006 was a starter at UNC. Indy always had a stable of running backs with a QB that could spin it fairly well.

    Indy ran a pro set with one back. Butler ran a modified wing T and gradually spread it out more in later years. Was a lot of fun to watch them go at it especially as Butler started to pick it up around 2005 and Indy was dropping off a bit each year.

  • uBnice Jun 14, 12:12 p.m.
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    For people like me who are rather new to the history, what were the style of play for those competing West teams? Were both typically balanced? Did both typically have passing games?

  • btango Jun 14, 11:12 a.m.
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    Five of the western title games were very competitive with Page's two TD win over Mallard Creek being the only one over a TD in that category. During the Indy run they beat Butler in the early rounds due to Butler's lower seeding as a second place conference team. 2005 and 2006 I thought Butler was easily the second best team in 4AA. 2006 Indy beat them handily in the semifinals but really should have lost in the regular season finale winning by six.

    The talent in Charlotte is much more spread out than people seem to realize. The Big 4 private schools have very good players, a lot of FBS level talent, but not the great depth. Butler did have seasons where their talent level was better than Indy but seemed to lose at the line of scrimmage or Indy having their number. 2007 Butler sent three players to the NFL with one still playing but lost 20-7 in the second round.

  • diddydontplay77 Jun 14, 12:41 a.m.
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    Wake Forests passing game and great defense was key in their victory over Middle Creek last season. When MC trailed 7 to 0 in the second half and decided to go for it on 4th down in their own territory (big mistake) the WF defense made the stop and the WF QB followed it up with a big pass play down inside the MC 10 yd line. WF had the skill players for a strong passing game but they never fully utilized it, and as it turned out, they didn't need too.

  • uBnice Jun 13, 11:23 a.m.
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    @mj Yes, WF earned it and it was a beautiful thing!

  • mjjohnson5573 Jun 13, 11:06 a.m.
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    You are right on....but WF earned it on that day. WF has some good personnel returning on offense next year that would give them the chance to be successful throwing the ball as well as running. I'll be curious to see how they use that talent next year.

  • uBnice Jun 13, 7:53 a.m.
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    To dovetail off your point, the style of play is decided by the coach. One could argue that at the 4AA level, the West has had the better coaching for playing a championship winning style.

    Lucas' WF team finally won due to extreme circumstances. It was the same formula that led to previous losses. But this time WF had a very extreme defense. It is about the only way a one-dimensional run-1st, run all the time team can hope to win the championship in 4AA/4A and probably 3AA/3A. My hat's off to WF for producing the team that won. I have pride for the East side. But their win was more the exception than the rule in my humble opinion.

  • football fetch Jun 12, 9:53 a.m.
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    The schedules are made a couple years in advance. And with the change in conferences teams had to scramble for games. WF's schedule was completed before last season started well before last season started.

  • Sir Lafayette Jun 8, 8:00 a.m.
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    I think you see a lot of East teams getting blown out in the State Championship due to style of play more, than not being as talented. I think if the Wake Forests, Scotlands, and New Berns of the world had those teams on the schedule every year they would have adapted to that style of play and the games would have been closer. Butler, during Indy's run, had the luxury of playing them once or twice a year which probably helped tremendously in preparation for Indy the next year. Now obviously Indy was far more talented than anyone in the state, but having to play them for the first time in a state championship was a recipe for disaster.

  • Muhsin919 Jun 8, 3:50 a.m.
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    I would take richmond in that game

  • The East is dropping bombs! May 23, 5:47 p.m.
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    It is our family members you are talking about.
    Like I said before your kids play?
    See, I'm not talking about your kids at all, yours aren't playing!

  • The East is dropping bombs! May 23, 4:37 p.m.
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    Lol Both MakkardCreek and the west definitely under performed this past year.
    What was the score of the championship game again?
    Yep couldn't score!

  • kdalefan May 23, 3:46 p.m.
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    Well, since feelings got hurt because we didn't back down when somebody from western nc came on a wake county message board to "twist the knife occasionally" about the current 4aa state champs from Wake county, everybody STOP putting facts out there to debate somebody from the western part of the state on a Raleigh area message board forum pretty please!!!!

    He thinks we take it "too personal" so just let em roll on here, say anything they want and none of us say anything back to them so we dont look like we are taking it personal!

    Sheesh

  • mjjohnson5573 May 23, 3:23 p.m.
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    I was impressed with all 11 of them as well as some of their backups. I think it goes unsaid but, the best defense top to bottom WF has ever had.
    Deadeye
    True...2 of 4 DB starters at the end of the season coming back but, two other DB's also coming back started at different points during the season. The toughest task will be replacing the 3 of 4 linebackers that they lost, although the one coming back was defensive mvp in the championship game. Hopefully the offense can help more this next year with 9 of 11 starters back and #1 from defense who could also be a great receiver in spots if they would throw the ball.

  • SQ630 May 23, 3:17 p.m.
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    Somewhat surprising. I would have thought Charlotte the last 20 years but then again I can see Greensboro

  • 2016 May 23, 2:59 p.m.
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    Some of you guys take this stuff far to personal. Like we attacked a family member or something. It's high school football and some fan speak.

    You guys constantly want to justify the under performance of the Wake county area in football and we like to twist the knife occasionally. It's really not that big a deal and I promise nothing about it makes me desperate.

    Great players and great coaches make great teams. WF has been blessed with both and have made it to 3 title games in 5 years. Does Mallard creek get their share of kids moving in?? Sure...most from outside Meck county and FYI...they lose a bunch S well. The privates and charters do grab a ton of kids from the area.

  • insureken May 23, 2:32 p.m.
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    I wasn't that impressed with the dline of WF as much as their LB's and DB's. WF has a D1 level DB core. RC is reaching for past glory....

  • deadeyejoe May 23, 1:58 p.m.
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    Defense brings back 2 of 3 down lineman, but loses Xach Gill (UNC commit); 1 of 4 linebackers, loses Hodge (Marshall) and 2 of 4 db's.

  • White Santa May 23, 1:56 p.m.
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    Just for kicks I wanted to look at the NC cities producing the most NFL talent. A quick look shows that Greensboro (adjusted for population numbers) produced the most NFL talent over the past 20 years. Durham ranks right there with Charlotte. Raleigh lags a little behind. I imagine there are some small towns (like Tarboro) that may boast an even higher percentage but looking at the larger cities this is what I found. Now this accounts for birthplaces only and is just based on cities. More work than I'd like to go through to figure out by county.

  • nepsy7 May 23, 12:59 p.m.
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    What does WF have coming back on defense? What Offense is Richmond running?

  • kdalefan May 23, 12:46 p.m.
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    You 2 sound real desperate right now.

    Go Cugas !!

  • insureken May 23, 12:21 p.m.
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    I guess the WF VS RICHMOND is a dead convo? I think both programs are weakened. I guess I like WF by a small margin

  • The East is dropping bombs! May 23, 11:34 a.m.
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    These 2 must be getting paid for trying to keep the east thinking that the east can't win. Think about it, neither have children in the west North Carolina school system, but yet feel they need to always degrade east. They both fail to realize that no one in the east really cares what the west is really doing til it's time for east to play them in the post season. Most schools think about the conference first. Normally that's an accomplishment in itself.
    Think about it, Nepsy "works with many college coaches", who in the world would listen to him because of the way he responds on here. Not professional at all!
    It's not even football season and they are still at it. I guess they fail to realize that the RAL in WRAL stands for Raleigh.

  • nepsy7 May 23, 11:16 a.m.
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    You said 3 Schools in Charlotte had the most talent. That would be false. I gave you and example of a school that had 11 D1 players on the roster @ the same time. I actually left off the kids who went to D2 colleges. You also insinuated that kids in Charlotte all show up @ the top schools. False again. Proven by Rivals, Scout, and 24/7. They are all over the city. Plus I work with numerous College coaches, assisting them on locating talent in Charlotte. I know 1st hand.

    I was dead wrong when i said the majority games in Western Region playoffs were competitive. See how easy that was. You should try it! :)

  • 2016 May 23, 11:15 a.m.
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    Mallard Creek won 2 state titles and didn't even win their conference. Your right though....All the good players are stacked on one team.

    Got anymore if those facts....lol

  • kdalefan May 23, 10:56 a.m.
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    You 2 might be the only guys on this board that don't understand what is being pointed out based on the actual results.

  • nepsy7 May 23, 10:51 a.m.
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    Why not bring in the privates? They play football also. So Blah Blah back at you! lol A little FYI for you. Vance and Hough are not private and they are loaded every year. So no one is deflecting. That's a fact. So you can add Charlotte Schools to your list of programs you can't stand. I doubt anyone will loose any sleep. It will continue to be a hot bed for scouts. Wake Forest winning, makes the State of NC better. I applaud them.

    Sorry to blow your theory up, it seems like you were really trying hard. Talent in Charlotte is all over the place. Even if they didnt represent this year on your twisted analogy. lol!

  • 2016 May 23, 10:47 a.m.
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    Truly outstanding and ground breaking analysis. Football teams that have won titles have lots of very good football players. Clap..clap..clap..
    Any other breaking news?

    Congrats to WF. Lots of pretty good football players on that team. Maybe that's why they won?

    Hopefully we won't have to wait another 29 years to celebrate the next one.

  • kdalefan May 23, 10:35 a.m.
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    After looking over things New Bern might be the most consistent and best program in the state

    Winning multiple 4aa and 4a, doesn't matter where they play

    Charlotte boys might want to go start chasing them with all that "talent"

  • kdalefan May 23, 10:19 a.m.
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    Quit trying to deflect by bringing in "privates" and "academics" and blah blah

    Only 3 Charlotte teams have won a 4 aa championship SINCE 2000. with all this "talent" "All over the city"

    Then, charlotte didn't even represent this past year with all this "talent" and a wake county team BLANKED the team that destroyed the Charlotte rep with all this "TALENT"

    I used to couldnt stand the WF "Cugas" but now starting to like them for shutting you big mouths up

  • uBnice May 23, 10:13 a.m.
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    Doggone, I love these analytic arguments using data and statistics. LOL! Keep it coming guys! :-)

  • kdalefan May 23, 10:10 a.m.
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    Only 3 Charlotte teams have won a 4 AA state champ since 2000.

    And, they were all loaded more than any other team and had the best coaches.

    Only 3. That's top heavy. And they blew the doors off all western teams and eastern. Didn't matter who they played. All 3 were well oiled recruiting machines

    Wake forest finally copied them in MANY ways. Garner the same on MANY ways for years, just couldn't get over the hump

  • nepsy7 May 23, 6:49 a.m.
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    Hough Football All played on the same team.

    Carl Tucker: UNC
    Marquil Osborne: Tenn
    Mark Fields: Clemson
    Vann Smith: Clemson
    Bishop Ford:SC State
    Corey Sutton: Kansas State
    Matt Stevens: NC. State Christian Young: SC State Corey Bell: UNC Anthony Sherill: Western Carolina

    They were loaded and had more talent than anybody. I can give you other examples. Just ask! Don't just make stuff up!

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