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  • cap8fan May 21, 2014
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    "I knew if we could use the plan that I was going to bring in and everybody would buy into it, I thought that we could be successful right away,” Bryant said. “Having an advanced weight-lifting class with the majority of our football players in it year round is key. It’s very key."

    That is great advice for most administrators in Wake County when they are hesitant to provide weight training classes for athletes and then wonder why their athletic teams aren't doing well.

    Great article. Thank you for sharing.

  • UNC_fan4eva May 21, 2014

    It's tough for a new coach to land a spot at a good established program - as usually those staffs are already full and only volunteer spots remain.

    I would suggest a smaller school in a conference that contains one or two good programs. Then you can observe first hand what it takes to win and perhaps apply to your own program. Virtually every good coach in NC HS football today started at some smaller school, made an impact, got recognized and moved on. It's a bigger risk at a lower salary - but a chance to have an immediate impact.

    Reading Coach Jim Bob Bryant's bio would be a good start -- he did not always have it easy. At Havelock he made some tough decisions that eventually turned out to be best for the team.

  • Cap8oldtimer May 19, 2014

    Oldtime-- I agree about the comments made about you here. Durhamfbfan, we could use your wisdom on the Leesville Road thread. Lol.

  • oldtimecoach May 18, 2014
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    Thank you. I return the compliment and I agree with the remainder of your post.

  • durhamfbfan May 16, 2014
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    Always good when I take a moment to revisit the site to see @oldtime posting something - always a quality and balanced post.

    My two cents on this front.

    I'd agree with @oldtimecoach that you search out a head coach that has a passion for what they are doing. Someone that loves the management, X's and O's, mentoring of student-athletes and is always learning or willing to learn. If given the opportunity to interview or discuss a position with a coach that fits this description I would then inquire as to the dynamic of his staff. Not only do you want to be in an environment that I described, but you also want to be in an environment where all of the staff buys into the same vision. If the first element is satisfied, it's likely what I just brought up would also be satisfied.

    As for the politics and such. IMHO, all of that only begins to play into some of this discussion if you are thinking about a head coaching position and if you are just starting out, then ambitious or not, you probably should not be thinking that far ahead and into that minutia at this stage of your coaching development.

    Go in and be the best assistant coach you can be in a good learning environment and if you work your tail off, you'll eventually somewhere get an opportunity. Nobody gets rich off of doing this and those that are highly successful are putting in time that equates to a salary of nickels on the hour. Point is that there are few that place that dedication into it and if you happen to be one, you'll be successful.

  • FleaFlicker May 13, 2014

    Established programs are usually tough to crack unless you want to volunteer. The Garners etc are probably great staffs to learn from but a lot of coaches would want to get on their staff so it might not be an option. Even with volunteering you might just not be needed. Your best bet is to find newer schools or a team with a staff turnover. You might takes some bumps and the team might struggle but there is a lot to learn from losing too. You might also want to help out a middle school coach. Plenty of them are flying solo or have sporadic part time help whenever a parent get get there.

  • teammugs May 10, 2014
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    yeah Bad - facts are irrelevant...JMO...

  • Cleveland Blue May 10, 2014
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    Wake County is very political, that's for sure. They tried to screw me out of proper education when I was a kid, but I guess things work out fine for me. Small town schools are better anyway...

  • gtrojan00 May 9, 2014
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    Garner doesn't have a stable coaching staff with a solid foundation?

  • Bad Azz Boyz May 8, 2014

    Started post with IMO, so facts are irrelevant. This is just opinion so take it with a grain of salt. From where I stand and what I see year in and year out as far as stability, a newby may want to go somewhere with solid foundations and a vested interest by all in sports. I don't think that Wake County offers that, IMO. Coaching turnover and the politics here seem to make things more difficult in this area. I'm not from here but have observed some things since I moved here years ago that have led me to make these general statements. You making reference to 3 individuals sorta validates my point actually.

  • 910FB May 7, 2014

    If a young coach is fortunate enough to begin his career with a staff like the ones that Richmond or Scotland has he is fortunate. Starting at the right place at the right time could make or break a career.

  • teammugs May 7, 2014
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    Bad Az Boyz - maybe you'd like to expound upon that with some FACTS?...Why would anyone coach in Wake then...I mean Garner is in Wake...Wake Forest is in Wake...Leesville is in Wake...Millbrook is in Wake...Do the names Smith, Green, Wolfe ring a bell?...didn't think so...

  • Bad Azz Boyz May 7, 2014

    IMO, I would encourage and up and coming newcomer to go outside of Wake County to begin their career if possible. Wake County is very political and bureaucratic, so getting an opportunity here may be very difficult as well as a disheartening experience. Wake County also has a lot of inside things that go in the education field and sports so just be careful and pick your spots carefully, and find and administration that is trustworthy and recognizes the value of having strong sports programs to represent the school.

  • loedownsports May 7, 2014
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    I know it's a path not desired by many but I started coaching as a volunteer for about 4 years. It's tough without the pay but I learned a lot not just from the staffs I learned under (my Dad's at Enloe and North Pitt) but you really build a lot of relationships with a lot of other coaches that help you as a football coach but also build up a network for you in the future. They aren't as involved as in the past but just like to acknowledge two guys, Gerald Whisenhunt and Bobby Wolfe, that this area of football probably misses, but great people who always offered me the advice I needed.

  • cap8fan May 7, 2014
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    What is the question? Where are the good coaches who are quality men or where are the head coaches who help their assistants become head coaches?

    I don't know that a "lay person" would know that. Some assistant coaches are hired because of the program they are in and not necessarily because they are ready to be head coaches. Some head coaches go out of their way to teach their assistants how to be head coaches.

  • pgillenturtle May 7, 2014

    Really like the new coach at east chapel hill...pinecrest, cardinal gibbons, heritage, Sanderson...all quality men.

  • oldtimecoach May 7, 2014
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    One of the posters on another thread asked about good programs for a young coach to try to work in. My answer was to find one with a good head coach that mentors young coaches and helps them develop. So, the question is, where do you think those programs are, and it would be really good to hear from those who have coaching experience as they might have more insight.

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