Wake Forest vs Mallard Creek

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  • ellaandfreddy Dec 18, 2013
    Bench Warmer

    AT LEAST WHEN WE GET THERE WE KNOW HOW TO WIN,SOMETHING LUCAS CANNOT DO NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU THINK HE WALKS ON WATER.SO SLEEP WELL KNOWING THAT HE IS A LOSER WHEN IT COUNTS THE MOST ! YOU CAN BLAME IT ON THE PLAYERS BUT THEY DO WHAT LUCAS SAYS AND WHAT HE SAYS IS WRONG==I HOPE FOR GOOD CHRISTMAS FOR ALL . PS=MALLARD CREEK SAYS THANK YOU FOR THE GIFT HA HA HA

  • cb2walton Dec 17, 2013
    Towel Boy

    Ellaan
    What is your problem? How many Wake Forest games have you seen? No coach with the resume like the one Coach Lucas is building would want the job if the school fired him . In five years 2 NCHSAA 4AA State Championship games. Not just that you have to remember these are high school boys playing a game. A coach has to work with the students that try out for the team.Coach Lucas and the coaching staff at Wake Forest are doing it the right way. As far as the east west thing , make it back to the state championship next year if you can. How long will it tae you and your team to get back.

  • ellaandfreddy Dec 17, 2013
    Bench Warmer

    LUCAS MUST GO =ENOUGH SAID

  • sweetwilly Dec 17, 2013
    Veteran

    Stay ellaandfreddy it is a forum speak your mind...

  • mjjohnson5573 Dec 17, 2013
    Sports Legend

    Go away

  • ellaandfreddy Dec 17, 2013
    Bench Warmer

    44-0 59-21 YOU MUST HAVE A SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH LUCAS ? ENOUGH SAID=THE TRUTH REALLY HURTS

  • West maybe is bestest Dec 17, 2013
    Sports Legend

    I guess by that genius thought process your Grandsons coach should have been fired last year as he is a defensive coach and they lost 55-7 in two games to Butler. Also gave up 41 to Page in 2011.

    Should have shown him the door with those kind of results.

  • ellaandfreddy Dec 17, 2013
    Bench Warmer

    ALL I WANT KNOW IS COMING IN SECOND OK FOR WF =IF SO KEEP LUCAS ON THE SIDELINES AND KEEP LET HIM CALLING THE DEFENCE =AIN"T HE SUPPOSE TO BE A DEFENCE PERSON ==44-0 59=21 ENOUGH SAID CASE CLOSED =YOU CANNOT HIDE FROM THE TRUTH ==PLEASE SANTA HELP THOSE WHO THE TRUTH EVEN IF IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR OWN EYES, YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT ABOUT MY COMMENTS BECAUSE THE TRUTH WILL COME TO THOSE WHO PROTECT A BROKEN RECORD ===HO HO HO LUCAS GOT TO GO!

  • West maybe is bestest Dec 17, 2013
    Sports Legend

    DBH- well said. Yup- that just about ends that debate

  • DBH8293 Dec 17, 2013
    Veteran

    Ellaandfreddy- get your facts straight. Before becoming head coach he was the DC. The wing t was already in place. In the last 6 years they have made 4 regional finals, 2 state championships, and the only accomplishment not reached is the same one no 4aa school has done since 1998. So maybe every single coach in the 4a east needs a new coach.

  • teammugs Dec 17, 2013
    Sports Legend

    ellaandfreddy - yes Santa...please help us...SANTA???...are you kidding me??? Santa please send ellaandfreddy a clue...name me ONE coach who is not 'set in his ways'...and if you are not a WF fan - why do you care?...LRHS beat WF 4 times straight...you want to congratulate coach Smothers for that?...or criticize coach Lucas?...or send your grandson to Butler next year?

  • ellaandfreddy Dec 17, 2013
    Bench Warmer

    you can give lucas all the advice you want ,but he is set in his own ways and he will not change as far as working with lucas =well I do not work with losers or with people that will not change for the better.so as I close ,just remember next year when the state championship trophy is handed out it will not handed to lucas.the truth will sat you free .what does age got to do with it .the truth will come out and see that he never change for the better for the team .SANTA PLEASE HELP THOSE HOW CANNOT SEE THE TRUTH

  • mjjohnson5573 Dec 17, 2013
    Sports Legend

    For the first time this year I heard Wakefield fans complain that they throw to much and don't run enough. I guess it's hard to make everyone happy.

  • silkyjohnson Dec 17, 2013
    Rookie

    Problem is Wake Forests offense line is so small and when watching them play more players are watching the play than blocking. Bryce Love gets hit in the backfield more than any other running back in the Triangle. He earned every yard this year and deserves all the hype these colleges give him. Offensive line and OC are the biggest problem with this offense. How do you throw the ball 4 times against Wakefield without letting Bryce run it at least once from the 9 yard line. SMH!

  • badjudgement Dec 17, 2013
    Bench Warmer

    ellaandfreddy - I am still trying to figure out why you are acting like you have a vested interest in the Wake Forest program. Grandson plays at MC which would most likely put you at 50+ years old and you are complaining about a coach working with 15-18 year olds. RELAX, it is just a game. Why are you giving advice to WF when they can use it to beat your grandson. Might make it an an awkward Christmas next year if WF uses grandpa's advice. Better yet, why don't you contact coach Lucas and ask to be an assistant coach.

  • West maybe is bestest Dec 17, 2013
    Sports Legend

    The Wing T isn't the problem. You can throw out of it if you have the personnel. Butler has won 3 state championships with a base WIng T and 2 All American QB's.

    But if your QB is limited in throwing the ball, you have smallish recievers and you are tiny in the offensive line then you play ball control , great defense and you win a ton of games.

    Mallard Creeks offense is way more than #27 left or right . They threw for 200 yards Staurday night, but it eveloves every year to the talent on the team. Our offense is way different than the one we started with in August with a 2 year starter at QB. We threw it more and ran way more read option. Looked a lot like Scotland. He goes down and we become way more running downhill with QB under center.

    Brand is a GREAT offensive coordnaotor

  • mdeluke2 Dec 17, 2013
    Towel Boy

    ya, we need a fancy offense like wakefield, they had the best QB for the last 5 years and won less playoff games then WF won just this year. Mallard Creek offense wasn't fancy, the bus left (27) the bus right... WF didn't stop them but nobody else did either!...the rest of the cap8 is hoping for lucas to go, you are correct there, then maybe someone else can get to the state finals....

  • piratefball172 Dec 17, 2013
    Sports Legend

    Replacing coaches is stupid. There is a reason Coach Lucas has made two state championships. Now I have never been a fan of the wing T in 4A or 4AA ball. It only works if you have a strong defense. Wake Forest had a strong defense. They just ran into a buzz saw.

    I still think you can be run heavy, but just do it out of different offensive sets. Lastly, I will say it again, ALL OF OUR SQUADS WOULD HAVE BEEN BLASTED.
    Leesville stood no chance, Middle Creek didn't stand a chance, Jack Britt didn't stand a chance, Garner no way, Millbrook blasted, Wakefield crushed, Pinecrest etc. I mean plain and simple.

  • ellaandfreddy Dec 17, 2013
    Bench Warmer

    oh by the way my kid never played at wf ,but if he did I would have pulled for the team .did I also mention that my grandson played this year for mallard creek the undefeated state champs,, ,,something that you will never say if you are fan of wf high school as long as the coach stands around the sidelines..you can defend your coach all day long that's ok ,but other coaches all over the state know as long as he stays at your school and runs that simple offence they know how to stop it ==case closed =SAME COACH =SAME RESULTS=PLEASE SANTA HELP WF FANS SOME ARE LOST IN A CLOUD OF SMOKING MIRRORS!

  • form1 Dec 17, 2013
    Towel Boy

    I was at the game and the Defense seem to be there but #27 did his job and broke the tackle. If WF change the offensive scheme from wing-t and never get back to the state championship then people would criticize that. I bet Wakefield would rather have been rather been the Eastern Conference champion then the conference champion.

  • teammugs Dec 16, 2013
    Sports Legend

    some folks are hard to please...who is the popular pick to replace coach Lucas?...maybe replace the offensive scheme...but without the D they were going nowhere...

  • mdeluke2 Dec 16, 2013
    Towel Boy

    good point west. our punter/safety also got hurt so the backup had to punt...he did not punt all year. ( he was a great fg kicker).... the least of wf problems is the defense

  • West maybe is bestest Dec 16, 2013
    Sports Legend

    Belechik could have called the defense for Wake on Saturday and it would have mattered little. MC averaged over 50 a game and they got about 6 short fields with turnovers and bad punts. Honestly I thought the run defense was as good as we played all year, they only time all year I felt we had to pass to move it consistently. We usually run for 400 yards + on everyone.

  • mdeluke2 Dec 16, 2013
    Towel Boy

    ellaanfreddy
    the defense won every playoff game this year except in the finals. the offense didn't have a healthy Love...
    we get it , your kid didn't get playing time when he played...
    next year go the the games at heritage

  • ellaandfreddy Dec 16, 2013
    Bench Warmer

    we are wondering how can a coach that is suppose to be defence minded .can not control how his defence plays =IT all falls on the coach that seems not to be prepared for game time ,oh by the way WF has not won the regular season since 2010,,,seems to be slipping down in conference each year===thanks lucas

  • kmagnusson Dec 16, 2013
    Sports Legend

    MJ
    I hate to disagree with you but had MC played MC I'm 100 percent sure MC would have won!

  • 1975musty Dec 16, 2013
    Pro

    i went to the game and could not believe it was two high school teams facing off. two totally different skills sets

  • form1 Dec 16, 2013
    Towel Boy

    For someone to say they need to replace Coach Lucas is very interesting. A school that only went to the playoffs a couple of times in the first 30 years of existences, now Eastern Regional Champs is not good enough. As the say on espn, its more about Jimmy's and Joe's than X's and O's. WF has better Jimmy's and Joe's than the other teams in the east, but not the west. You could get Chip Kelly to be the offensive coordinator and call the plays for WF but they would still lose to MC 10 out of 10 times. In order for WF to win they would have to have played a perfect game and hoped going into the 4th quarter the game was close.

  • mjjohnson5573 Dec 16, 2013
    Sports Legend

    kmag
    First of all, I think you need some professional help lol. Let me put a new spin on the loss to WF for you. I was feeling embarrassed at halftime of the WF/Mallard Creek game because of how hard we were getting thumped.....I agree with Pirate....the same thing would have happened to any team from the East. So if you look at it that way, the refs really did you a favor lol.

  • CardinalGibbons2007 Dec 16, 2013
    Veteran

    "save it for recess"-- VERY original. You need a..... COME ON MAN!

  • piratefball172 Dec 16, 2013
    Sports Legend

    I mean bottom line it didn't matter if it was Britt, Garner, Middle Creek, Leesville, Panther Creek, or Wake Forest....all of our squads would have been blasted this past weekend.

  • West maybe is bestest Dec 16, 2013
    Sports Legend

    How much of Wake's Oline comes back?

  • kmagnusson Dec 16, 2013
    Sports Legend

    Mjjohnson
    You probably think I will never get over the MC vs WF game, but I have good news for you, I have put it all in the past and I look forward to a bright future!!! In fact, I have even come to terms and have forgiven the Refs!!! I want the record to reflect that I kind of like the low life,gravy sucking,scum swallowing,bottom feeding, cave dwelling, gas producing,intelligence reducing,society ruining little cretins that we call referees!!!! It is not good or healthy to carry hate in my heart. So I am being the better man and forgiving them for they are in the end, clueless. Sincerely Kmag :)

  • badjudgement Dec 16, 2013
    Bench Warmer

    I think it will be interesting to see how next year progresses. Leesville and Wakefield losing a lot of their firepower and Millbrook & Wake Forest have their offenses pretty much intact but losing a lot on defense.

  • mjjohnson5573 Dec 16, 2013
    Sports Legend

    teammugs
    I know you can't always look at JV results because some kids are up on varsity but, the four top performing schools this past fall were Millbrook, WF, Leesville, and Wakefield. Sanderson and especially Heritage weren't very good. I know the Rolesville name is associated with WF but, in reality based on the locations of the schools I think Rolesville will hurt Heritage more than WF.

  • teammugs Dec 16, 2013
    Sports Legend

    mjjohnson5573 - I have a feeling WF will be right there again next year in the Cap8...LRHS returns a lot of experience and at least 2 QBs to compete for the starting job, Millbrook has 2 big offensive weapons coming back, Sanderson looks like they have a staff in position to get things going, Heritage should build from this year and after last year's performance you can't count out Wakefield...and apparently Broughton will be better...

  • mjjohnson5573 Dec 16, 2013
    Sports Legend

    The WF defense loses 7 of 11...3 of 4 D lineman return and 1 Db

  • teammugs Dec 16, 2013
    Sports Legend

    CardinalGibbons2007 - it is what it is...and you can't cite me calling you ignorant...or anything else...save it for recess...

  • badjudgement Dec 16, 2013
    Bench Warmer

    I would have to think right now that Wake Forest will be the favorite to win the CAP8 next year assuming they haven't lost many of their defensive players. I think WF just needs to mix it up a little more on offense using different formations in addition to running the wing T. It's not like you couldn't run a sweep from the I formation with their running backs.

  • CardinalGibbons2007 Dec 16, 2013
    Veteran

    You can take the hard talk somewhere else muggs.

  • West maybe is bestest Dec 15, 2013
    Sports Legend

    I think it takes more than just the head coach. You need a AD and a administration willing to find the best asst coaches as well as help in scheduling.

    Mallsrd Creek head coach is Mike Palmieri but Aaron Brand is a former head coach at OC and he has a wealth of talented position coaches. They are true staff. Some high schools I see it looks like they threw the staff together with the best that they could find. Position Coaches are the ones doing the teaching day in and day out.

  • ellaandfreddy Dec 15, 2013
    Bench Warmer

    SOMEBODY TOLD ME LUCAS WAS A DEFENSE MINDED COACH 44-0- 59-21 GOOD DEFENSE ARE YOU KIDDING ME --THANK YOU FOR PLAYING IN THE EAST REGION ,BECAUSE THATS THE ONLY WAY YOU WILL EVER WIN ==CASE CLOSED BECAUSE YOU CANNOT DEFEND THE TRUTH AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT

  • kdalefan Dec 15, 2013
    Pro

    dont change the coaches!

    change the offense

  • DBH8293 Dec 15, 2013
    Veteran

    So in your opinion every 4a team on the east needs a new coach becouse Lucas sends them home packing?

  • mjjohnson5573 Dec 15, 2013
    Sports Legend

    eandf
    Your right: "the results win or lose belong to him". Coach Smith got it started but, Coach Lucas has been in the Eastern title game 3 out of the 5 years he's been head coach and the state final game 2x. All 5 years the team has won or been in the mix for the Cap 8 championship. Any team can improve, and I don't always like the current offense but, they're doing something right. I'd rather have a team that can compete every Friday than what I saw before coach Smith got it all started.

  • ellaandfreddy Dec 15, 2013
    Bench Warmer

    you can defend lucas all you want ,but he is the coach so the results ,win or lose belong to him.so if he cannot take the heat well get out of the kitchen so if you believe what you write .you will also know that for wf ever to win the big game ,well you get a COACH that can adapt to game conditions =POOR COACHING LEADS TO LOPSIDED LOSES =PLEASE SANTA BRING A NEW COACH TO WF SO THAT FANS WILL A LEAST HAVE A CHANCE TO PULL FOR A TEAM THAT HAS A CHANCE THANK YOU!

  • DBH8293 Dec 15, 2013
    Veteran

    No excuses here, and as for weak? give me a break. I played on a losing state championship team. I know the work being put in. As for some of these people saying you have to get rid of Lucas to win the big one....wheres your team at? That's right, at home where coach Lucas put them. Reggie is a defense first coach and is not the play caller on offense, so before bashing him get facts straight.

  • ellaandfreddy Dec 15, 2013
    Bench Warmer

    as long as you keep the coaches at wf,you will always come in second .WE NEED COACHES AT WF .maybe people will see that we in wf we need help SO SANTA PLEASE HELP

  • teammugs Dec 15, 2013
    Sports Legend

    CardinalGibbons2007 - and when was the 1st time I called you "ignorant" - you want to cite it?...just asking?...you mad 'bro'?...oh, and another thing...I ain't your 'bro'...

  • plessfamily Dec 15, 2013
    Rookie

    Well said Tmugs

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