New Proposed High School in Garner?

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  • Cleveland Blue Jul 23, 2013
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    http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/07/23/3051425/high-schools-coming-to-garner.html

    New Garner school likely South Garner. Cary school will get Southwest Cary (lame name). Apex will get Apex Friendship.

  • schiess Jun 26, 2013
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    Pirate ,I here you bro,and everyone has to realize that the more new schools that start up ,the more you spread the talent out.when that happens you dilute the conference and the a lot of schools are impacted by that big time .i have to mention it again ,ask apex and greenhope and any school else how that works for them.

  • teammugs Jun 25, 2013
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    schiess - yeah let's leave the politics for another site...but as piratefball172 says new schools do have some impact...South View looks like they are still trying to figure out what hit them...and it can happen to any school...but magnets do have some advantages others do not...but that can be debated also...

  • piratefball172 Jun 25, 2013
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    Teammugs,

    I think with the growth of the area Raleigh will be fine. I'm concerend about the Fayetteville 910 area. There are talks of building more schools here as well. I've already mentioned the damage it has done to several prorams. The talk is building another one even further and closer to the Hoke County line. That would affect Jack Britt, South View, Grays Creek, and Seventy First.

  • schiess Jun 23, 2013
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    Agreed mugs,and this topic could easily turn into a heavy duty local political rant on the wake county political scene.

  • teammugs Jun 23, 2013
    Sports Legend

    Funny how Wake County keeps crying 'poor me' when it comes to money but keeps breaking ground for new schools...planning has a lot to be desired...if you keep building and selling new homes and developments without regard to infrastructure you're putting the cart before the horse...

  • schiess Jun 23, 2013
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    Ask greenhope and apex how it impacted them as for as new high schools go.

  • Cleveland Blue Jun 23, 2013
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    No, it's a public school in a small community call Friendship near Apex. It was going to be called West Apex High School, but they changed the name after locals protested the name because of history of Friendship community.

  • cap8fan Jun 23, 2013
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    blue5cardinals

    What is Apex Friendship High School? Is that a charter?

  • teammugs Jun 22, 2013
    Sports Legend

    if a new school opens it will have an impact...it's just a matter of how big...I think it affected WFR...Now WF HS...time will tell...

  • Cleveland Blue Jun 22, 2013
    Sports Legend

    Well, N&O Prep Sports twitter account mentioned new school sites for Garner and Cary with a possible site in Fuquay-Varina. Also, Apex Friendship High School is opening in 2015.

  • getsome Jun 19, 2013
    Pro

    I believe it is like when Leesville opened up. It split the Broughton District. I lived 4 miles from where Leesville is now in high school but went and played at Broughton. On the Garner subject, I always found it interesting that Middle Creek has a bus stop right in front of Garner High School.

  • BattlingBishop 5 Jun 18, 2013
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    ^Thank you for your prediction, Nostradamus.

  • middleburnpage Jun 18, 2013
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    It doesn't really matter if a new school opens up, Middle creek will be dominating wake county from next year on... Not garner

  • gt_football Jun 18, 2013
    Sports Legend

    Yawn............................

  • teammugs Jun 18, 2013
    Sports Legend

    Garner will still be a magnet school right?...

  • ntheweeds Jun 18, 2013
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    as far as I know wake has purchased land somewhere on Garner road for this school. I am not sure of the exact location but it's likely out somewhere near the water tower since that area has access to to roadways already and they won't have to spend money on as much

  • jimmysandjoes Jun 18, 2013
    Towel Boy

    Does anyone know exactly where they intend on building this school?

  • piratefball172 Mar 18, 2013
    Sports Legend

    Well...all I can say is that new schools do affect the talent level, but ultimately coaching is what is boils down to. It affected Fayetteville football as we know it. I've talked about this before, but Douglas Byrd Eages under Bob Paroli went to 4 straight state championship games. The South View Tigers were consistently ranked in the top 10 and made several state championship appearances in the early 2000's. All of a sudden a new school is built, and draws from both of those schools. That school would be Jack Britt High School...and we all know the rest is history. Byrd has bounced back, but they are in 3A now. Other than in 2004 or 2005 when Britt and South View both made the state championship...it has been downhill ever since.

  • lbeck37439 Mar 16, 2013
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    Garner wont be the only high school that will feel the affects of another high school opening.When Middle Creek opened up Garner, Fuquay and Athens were affected, most of the time its the baseball teams that feel the affects,cause these days there is less talent to go around.Even when Southeast opened up Garner didnt take that big of a hit in football in terms of wins, now did it hurt when it came playoff time yes. Did it hurt in basketball? IMO it made the program stonger.Hey when you have 2500 students if you lose 400 or 500, youre going to lose some good players, but youre still have 2000 students.Having a new school opening up around Garner isnt something new around here.Hey in the long run, means more kids from the Garner area will get a chance to show why Garner is a Great PLACE TO LIVE.

    Patriot50 is right.

    Most of the kids growing up Dreaming about playing sports at Garner. Alot of the kids playing for Garner, have had Parents or Family that played in the programs.

  • Hagelfish Mar 16, 2013
    Towel Boy

    Didn't Wake County buy land east of Fuquay along with this? Either way, Garner won't be the same, at least for a good 3-4 years. Like Patriot50 said, it's not gonna be permanent. Just look at WF-R and Heritage. WF-R is getting in the groove of things after Heritage was built and Heritage is getting in the swing of things now. But with Rolesville opening up this summer, things are going to have to be adjusted again. But sooner or later, they'll get use to it, and the cycle repeats itself. Garner can do the same.

  • Patriot50 Feb 9, 2013
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    Any new school opening will certainly have some impact, though not necessarily permanent. SERHS opened in 1997, drawing away some Garner talent, and GMHS was in the state title game the following year in 1998. Middle Creek opened @ 2001, which may have had a short-term negative impact on GMHS, but again, Final 4 appearances in 2006 and 2012, with a state title appearance in 2011, show the impact was minimal and not long-term. As for this idea of all the schools in Wake "watering down" the talent, not buying it. 6 of the 10 biggest high schools in the state are in Wake, and almost ALL have more than 2,000 students - big even for 4-A standards. It hurts more that so many feeder schools lead to more kids that haven't played together when they arrive in 9th grade (this is less the case at GMHS, which is a quiet but key advantage they have over other area schools), but the numbers and the talent is still there. Really think a new school opening hurts programs like baseball and basketball much more, where just 1 or 2 players can make a huge difference.

  • rstephenson002 Feb 9, 2013
    Pro

    A new school always has some impact. Another example is East Wake. Prior to Knightdale High School they use to draw everyone from the Neuse River to the County line. Knightdale took a great portion of their talent base. Took a few years to have a great impact bet EW hasn't been the same since then.

  • teammugs Feb 8, 2013
    Sports Legend

    Anyone who thinks Garner will be unaffected by another HS is dreaming, how big an impact remains to be seen...case in point look at WFR...they've been good but not AS good prior to Heritage being built...but they'll be good this year(a bad year has been 3 losses) ...It really depends on where the students come from - SER is a magnet too but they haven't been 'dominating the area'...

  • ntheweeds Feb 8, 2013
    All Star

    Eventually there will have to one built in Garner. The population is growing too much plaus land is cheaper there than other places in the Trianlge. I agree that it won't be probably until 2016 or so.

  • hsfootballraleigh Feb 8, 2013
    All Star

    Garners program is strong enough to remain a playoff team when/if a school does open near by

  • schiess Feb 7, 2013
    All Star

    Just another way to stir the Trojan pot.until they stop dominating this area just prepare your teams better and stop whining about how they get all the talent.remember ,those who can ,can and those who can't criticize .go Trojans

  • BattlingBishop 5 Feb 7, 2013
    Sports Legend

    If ya can't beat 'em, just split 'em up, I always say.

    GO TROJANS!

  • cap8fan Feb 6, 2013
    All Star

    I don't think you can open a new school in Garner and have Garner as we know it now go unaffected.

    The city of Raleigh has several high schools (Millbrook, Sanderson, Enloe, and Broughton). The talent has been so diluted in Raleigh that none of these these teams won more than 3 games this year:

    Millbrook: 3-8; Sanderson: 2-9, Enloe: 1-10; Broughton: 2-9). Each of the schools over the past years have had incredible talent go on to play college football (each have D-1 players right now playing in ACC & SEC schools). The more schools that open, the more the talent is distributed.

    Whether it is next year or 10 years from now, the opening of a new high school in Garner will have an affect on them. It is how they handle it that will determine if they remain dominant.

  • Edwards_Chris Feb 6, 2013
    Towel Boy

    Maybe this new high school will have a parking deck!!

  • 1975musty Feb 6, 2013
    Pro

    if they hadn't built SE would garner had won? who knows. no one will ever know. like saying IF wilmington goes to open enrollment then hanover will own garner. oh wait....

  • wendellboy10 Feb 6, 2013
    Pro

    GT it actually is a "confirmed site" according to the WCPSS board last night. It's going to happen, question is when. Best guess is it would be 2015-2016, but I would think that they would move the current Garner students there to do the long-awaited renovations to Garner which would delay its opening as a new school even further.....either way the Trojans will survive with or without it.

  • gt_football Feb 6, 2013
    Sports Legend

    Lots of worry about a school that has not been built and not even on the drawing board yet! Oh and the comment "The begining of average" I know you are praying for that!!! LMAO......

    GO TROJANS!!!

  • gtrojan03 Feb 5, 2013
    Rookie

    If SER were never built Garner probably would had won the state championship in '98

  • Patriot50 Feb 5, 2013
    Veteran

    Wishful thinking for some... H8 (proposed HS) is only a pipe dream until bond, which would be no sooner than 2014. 2018 at the earliest, and even then would probably be used while current Garner HS is renovated. Besides, Middle Creek and SERHS don't seem to have hurt them too much, now do they???

  • cantbustem Feb 5, 2013
    Sports Legend

    The begining of average.

  • cutty102306 Feb 5, 2013
    All Star

    UH-OH

  • lbeck37439 Feb 5, 2013
    Sports Legend

    sorry wendellboy that wasnt for you

  • wendellboy10 Feb 5, 2013
    Pro

    lbeck- Sorry, I don't think I was clear. I meant I don't think you'll have to worry about Garner staying strong because even with the new school they'll have enough in the school to remain strong.

  • lbeck37439 Feb 5, 2013
    Sports Legend

    Funny how SER didnt hurt too long,and the same when Middle Creek opened up.

  • wendellboy10 Feb 5, 2013
    Pro

    This will completely depend on where the school "draw" area is from. Rumor is that it will draw more from the Southeast Raleigh/East Garner area. If that is true it is possible that some of the areas now zoned for Middle Creek/Fuquay could come back to Garner. Take from that what you will, but I think the common thought it that either A) Garner will have more students enroll in the magnet program to attend a school with such a rich athletic tradition or B) Some of the stronger sports could be impacted by losing a star player or two, but some of the other sports could end up with higher participation numbers.

    Either way, I don't think you'll have to worry about Garner staying strong.

  • cap8fan Feb 5, 2013
    All Star

    Someone said that they don't have a lot of players who are magnet status. So the magnet status shouldn't be a factor

  • 1975musty Feb 5, 2013
    Pro

    no longer have a monopoly on all of Garners talent. yes they will still be magnet, but it will be the beginning of the end as we know it

  • cap8fan Feb 5, 2013
    All Star

    Anybody heard of a new HS proposal that will reault in a new HS located in Garner? How will that affect the program?

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