David Salmon- Middle Creek

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  • crustyoldcoach Feb 5, 2013
    Bench Warmer

    Congrats to David Salmon!! A fine young man, with a bright future. He has chosen a good school, with lots of opportunities. He also has the opportunity to play football and play for a coach with NFL experience. Great opportunity! He will create a lot of long lasting memories both on and off the field.

  • Paul Giamatti Feb 5, 2013
    Veteran

    Glad to see such an enlightened view of your being highly ignorant. The facts remain unrefuted.

    More publicity desired on how Campbell's "academic standards" are not even on the same planet as many of those other schools you are hoping to compare yourself to such as Davidson or Georgetown? I've seen the whole recruiting spiel for many years. It is not truth you are looking for here. Only "ataboys" and adulation.

  • mustangfanrusty Feb 5, 2013
    Towel Boy

    Great point by olddb!

    "The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about."

  • olddb39 Feb 5, 2013
    Veteran

    Ignorance is bliss.

  • Paul Giamatti Feb 5, 2013
    Veteran

    I am acutely aware of those distinctions without differences. Does glorified DIII better fit your understanding of Campbell? Nothing you said points to a superior level of athletes. Campbell also plays DIII schools. Campbell offers no one. They have no athletic scholarships to give.

    Salmon recieved no full athletic scholarship offers. This is fact. So definitive, yes.

  • olddb39 Feb 5, 2013
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    heelmania, while I can appreciate your opinion of the level of football that a non scholarship school provides, you happen to be wrong regarding Campbell and David Salmon. When Campbell first reignited their program around 2007, I thought the same about the program. I thought it was a glorified D3 because they did not have athletic scholarships. Having had an opportunity to learn more about the program and the coaches that they have had over the last few years, I have learned that this is not the case. They actually recruit the best players that fit into the academic standards, no different than a Wofford, Davidson, Georgetown or any other school with high academic standards. They are limited to the size of the recruiting class, unlike some of the D3 schools in which you are comparing them with. Campbell does not offer every kid. Campbell plays a D1AA schedule which includes members of the expansive Pioneer League and also includes at least 2 other non Pioneer League D1AA teams. Last year, Old Dominion was on the schedule, a top seed in D1AA, now a D1A team. My point being, while Campbell is not at an elite D1AA level, they are not D2 or D3.

    Regarding David Salmon, you are also wrong. He did have SCHOLARSHIP offers, by at least 2 other schools. My only problem with your posts is that you come off as if you have definitive knowledge of what you are talking about and you don't. You have every right to your opinion, but please limit it to opinion and don't pass it off as fact. That, to me, makes you disingenuous at best. That's my opinion.

  • Paul Giamatti Feb 4, 2013
    Veteran

    ? Who said it wasn't? I guess I will slow things down so everyone clearly understands intent. Campbell is a DI school which does not offer athletic scholarships. There is no real difference in Campbell and most DIII schools. Neither offer athletic scholarships and they both recruit the same level of athlete. To infer that Campbell is a higher level of football than teams like Methodist is disingenuous at best.

  • lbeck37439 Feb 4, 2013
    Sports Legend

    Campbell is in the FCS in football.

  • Paul Giamatti Feb 4, 2013
    Veteran

    No negativity. Why would the truth be negative? Does it point out problems with recruiting lines given to players and parents? The only thing lacking is why you have an interest? Related? Campbell coach???

    You wanted some sort of pub by posting here. Well, you got it. Just not the pub you were hoping for. Go luck to you and Campbell. Getting players like Salmon will help.

  • lbeck37439 Feb 4, 2013
    Sports Legend

    Pioneer Football League Members
    Butler | Campbell | Davidson | Dayton | Drake | Jacksonville
    Marist | Morehead State | San Diego | Valparaiso
    Mercer (2013) | Stetson (2013)

  • mustangfanrusty Feb 4, 2013
    Towel Boy

    The thread was of a positive tone for both the Campbell football program and for the young man. There was no need for your negativity, that is my problem with your posts.

    A. Clearly your knowledge of college athletics is lacking.

    B. How can you speak as to what offers he did or did not have?

  • Paul Giamatti Feb 4, 2013
    Veteran

    I didn't think the post bashed anything. The post was very complimentary of Salmon. I didn't find any bashing a program either. The facts do seem to be very well aligned. Why do you take such offense?

    The post clearly points to Campbell being basically the same as a DIII program as far as scholarships and level of athletes. Since when is the truth bashing? It seems you agree with spreading falsities or allowing misassumptions to go unchecked.

  • mustangfanrusty Feb 4, 2013
    Towel Boy

    ballcoach, do you not have anything better to do than bash a college football program and discredit a decision that a young man made? Get your facts straight. Sounds like someone is just bitter because they may have never gotten such opportunities as this young man has. Get over yourself, I can't believe Nick allows such posts.

  • Paul Giamatti Feb 3, 2013
    Veteran

    He did not turn down any football scholarships. I'm sure he turned down academic money from other non-scholarship schools like Campbell but he did not turn down any "full rides" for football.

    Campbell is a DIII program with lipstick. Why claim to be something you're not??? Nothing wrong with being a non-scholarship school. Just don't try to throw yourself in there with scholarship programs. Campbell is a place for very good high school players that don't have the measurables for DI or DII. I'm glad to see someone like Salmon get to continue to play. Very good player.

  • mustangfanrusty Feb 2, 2013
    Towel Boy

    For the record Campbell is FCS. There are other FCS conferences without or that offer limited numbers of scholarships. One of the Harbaugh brothers was a former head coach in the pioneer league, so I wouldn't discredit that conference.

    And I heard that Salmon turned down scholarships from other schools because Campbell was the best fit academically.

  • Bengal4life Feb 2, 2013
    Towel Boy

    Like Salmon a lot too. Great kid and QB.

  • Paul Giamatti Feb 2, 2013
    Veteran

    The reason pioneer is not DIII is only so they can play a DI basketball schedule. Campbell football is in reality DIII.

    Saw Salmon play. Very good high school QB. But not a scholarship athlete due to size. Nothing wrong with that. That's just the reality of college athletics.

  • blakegarwood Feb 2, 2013
    Towel Boy

    They're in the pioneer league which is d1 but still does not give sholarships.

  • Bengal4life Feb 2, 2013
    Towel Boy

    For the record, Campbell does not have scholarships

  • kmagnusson Feb 1, 2013
    Sports Legend

    What about the two Senior running backs for MC? They both had an outstanding season!

  • hsfootballraleigh Jan 31, 2013
    All Star

    Middle Creek has always done a great job of getting their young men recruited.

  • pac6FB Jan 20, 2013
    Rookie

    Good pick up for Campbell

  • strongside Jan 15, 2013
    Rookie

    Congrats! Had a chance to see him play. Talented

  • capitalwildcat66 Jan 3, 2013
    All Star

    Congrats D. Salmon....
    hope he does help them turn the corner....
    with Mike Minter coaching the turn around should come sooner than later...

  • kmagnusson Jan 2, 2013
    Sports Legend

    Maybe he can help the camels get over the HUMP!

  • coach03 Jan 2, 2013
    Bench Warmer

    Yes. Football only at Campbell.

  • mustangfanrusty Jan 2, 2013
    Towel Boy

    Can anyone confirm this?

  • mustangfanrusty Jan 2, 2013
    Towel Boy

    Heard that over the holidays the Middle Creek QB committed to play football at Campbell next season.

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