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  • gsmusty Nov 26, 2012
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    RALEIGH -- Evan Parker just wanted to have fun.

    “I grew up like any other kid; you always want to win playing sports,” he said.

    Parker hadn’t had the type of success playing at Sanderson High School he’d dreamed of as a child, so when Wake County schools unveiled its choice-based school assignment option this fall, Parker took advantage.

    His options came down to Millbrook, Sanderson and Leesville Road, Parker said. With Millbrook having lost star running back Keith Marshall to graduation, and Parker looking for a change of pace from Sanderson, he zeroed in on Leesville.

    “If there’s this opportunity that’s presented before me and I don’t take it, I don’t want to look back and wonder ‘what if,’ ” Parker said nearly three months after his first game as Leesville Road’s starting quarterback.

    “There’s a lot of speculation that the reason I did it is because I wanted to get exposure or to get a scholarship,” he said. “Really when it comes down to it, I just really wanted to enjoy football. At Sanderson, although I had great relationships, the wins weren’t there, and in football it’s really black and white when it comes to success. It’s your win and loss column.”

    Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/11/14/2480438/move-paying-off-for-parker-leesville.html#storylink=cpy

  • gsmusty Nov 26, 2012
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    No, he transferred because of football, if i read the article correctly. There was no future at Sanderson and Leesville Road had more of an upside. He knew he was not guaranteed the starting QB spot, according to the article, but he felt it was a better situation at LVR than at Sanderson.

  • footballfanatic Nov 26, 2012
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    Evan Parker did not come to Leesville for football. He is an outstanding kid and student and it had something to do with that. I believe there is an article in the paper from a while back about him transferring to Leesville and why he did it; correct me if im wrong.

  • wendellboy10 Nov 26, 2012
    Pro

    Pirate- James is correct, here is a little more information-

    Addresses are assigned base schools and then given magnet options, school options, and calendar options (although at the high school level the calendars are basically all the same). When you pick a school you are then in their feeder pattern (I.E. guarenteed a spot at the high school that a middle school feeds into). So with high school transfers, if a school is your option, you can enroll there, if magnet you can apply and usually get in at the high school level. This is why a lot of middle school athletes transfer to certain schools, to guarentee a spot at a particuluar high school. If a school is not an option you would have to move into an area where the school is an option for your address, which is the case with Hines as he moved to live with his other parent. I can't address the QB at Leesville's situation as I don't know his situation.

    With all this said, Wake County's student assignment policy changes almost yearly so this information, while accurate today, may not be after the next board meeting.

  • jalverson2 Nov 26, 2012
    Pro

    Pirate,

    It's called school of choice, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the way I understand it, a student lives in a particular district and based on their address they are placed in that school, but also given one other school that they could choose to attend instead. Of course any student may apply for a magnet school, there are four in Wake Co. (Garner, Enloe, SE Raleigh, and Millbrook). So it's not really an open district, but there is some flexibility for parents and students in choosing where they will attend.

  • piratefball172 Nov 26, 2012
    Sports Legend

    Can someone clarify the enrollment rules for me? Also how did the Sanderson QB end up at Leesville? I am only going on rumors about open enrollment in Wake County. I'm truly asking because I don't know.

  • teammugs Nov 26, 2012
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    Garner's a magnet school - a student doesn't need open enrollment to apply there or to any of the other magnets...and if you look at the Wake County rules it's not exactly 'open enrollment'...and Hines played a lot at Leesville last year for a freshman - and would have done so this year, you don't keep talent like that on the bench...

  • lbeck37439 Nov 26, 2012
    Sports Legend

    If you dont know the whole story about a kid leaving a program, dont say the school he went to was recruting him,cause if you stop and think he didnt even play against Garner in the playoffs.Yes, if he would have stayed at leesville they might be playing this Saturday,but then again they might not been enough footballs over there either.

  • piratefball172 Nov 26, 2012
    Sports Legend

    Lets be honest recruiting or not, when your county went to open enrollment you knew things like this would happen. Not trying to start anything, but what were the circumstances of Leesville gaining Sanderson's starting QB from last year? Did the kid move to the Leesville area? I'm asking because I don't know the circumstances.

  • footballfanatic Nov 26, 2012
    Bench Warmer

    leonard washington - I missunderstood you. he wasnt in a boot last year, but back to the recruiting. Garner definitely recruits, why in the world would Hines leave Leesville?

  • Leonard Washington Nov 26, 2012
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    Footballfanatic- he was in a walking boot at the game! Teammugs you no we don't always agree but your last point was dead on.

  • footballfanatic Nov 26, 2012
    Bench Warmer

    The trainer at the school said that. Also, I heard it last year, when he was on the team. It was not just a player making up something because he didnt like Hines because he transfered. Also he was not in a boot.

  • teammugs Nov 26, 2012
    Sports Legend

    Hines hurt his ankle last year and couldn't play...had a huge game against Jordan which showed what he was capable of...anything else I'm not buying...the kid showed nothing but heart...any way you look at it - it's a loss for Leesville and a gain for Garner...and if he stayed at Leesville maybe THEY are playing this Saturday...

  • Leonard Washington Nov 26, 2012
    Bench Warmer

    footballfanatic- keep listening to kids, Hines would have gave anything to play. He had a serious injury and still went out there to help his team when they needed him. Hines,the coaching staff and some others no the real truth about his injury. And if you watched the game it's clear if he plays Garner is playing Saturday in the State Championship. And as far as last year how can someone play if their in a walking boot?

  • footballfanatic Nov 26, 2012
    Bench Warmer

    Garner no doubt recruits. Hines went to Leesville road as a freshman and played a good bit. For his sophomore season he was going to start and be a big part of the offense. Why would he just randomly leave for Garner? Also, he probably wasn't even hurt badly this game. Last year in the playoffs hines "hurt his ankle" but in reality he just didnt want to play (what one of the football players from leesville told me that the trainer said).

  • piratefball172 Nov 26, 2012
    Sports Legend

    I agree and disagree teammugs. I agree with your on the no incentive to play a tough schedule as far as seeding goes, but I think it is more for preparation for the playoffs itself.

    I can only speak for the Britt team. They played a relatively decent out of conference schedule. Pinecrest, Scotland, Southern Durham, and Mt. Tabor. Pinecrest and Scotland at home. Mount Tabor and Southern Durham away. It prepares you for the playoffs. I think a good tough road game with decent travel prepares your squad for anything.

    Just my opinion...not saying I'm right...but I think the lack of tough games for Garner ultimately was the deciding factor in the Britt game. Garner has no control over how good the teams in their conference are. Usually Garner has a game put to rest early, and some breathing room at halftime. I just didn't see the same confident swagger in Garner coming out of the halftime. Britt didn't seem bothered at all...even when they got down.

  • teammugs Nov 26, 2012
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    There's no incentive to play a tough schedule with the pod playoff structure...you could be 6-4 and host an easy opponent and 10-0 and be on the road for 2 of your 3 games...so where's the bonus in traveling 2 hours to play a tough team other than to satisfy fans of the game?...and some out of conference games hit on down years for some teams

  • setchamps99 Nov 25, 2012
    Veteran

    I understand what ur sayin ibeck but one of those 4charlotte games should be away from the raleigh area. U know there a little different kind of football played other places. Like some have tons of speed some have size. Just my opinion

  • lbeck37439 Nov 25, 2012
    Sports Legend

    Since 1972 4A Titles

    From 1972 to 2001
    East-11
    west-17 1984 was a tie

    starting in 2002 started 4AA and 4A
    4AA
    East-1
    West-9

    4A
    East-7 West-3

    up to 1995 East-11 West-11

  • Patriot50 Nov 25, 2012
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    Like I said, 40-5 overall and 9-3 in playoffs in last 3 years speaks for itself.

  • lbeck37439 Nov 25, 2012
    Sports Legend

    not buying the non-conference scheduling,because the non-conference scheduling is so early in the season. Garner plays 7 conference games,not 5 like New Bern does.

  • Patriot50 Nov 25, 2012
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    Hear what you're saying, but scrimmage vs. Richmond and early game @ 11-2 Middle Creek let them know where they stood: they could be really good, but also had little room for error (ie turnovers,injuries). In the years thay had tougher non-conference schedules (Millbrook, Norrthern Durham, Riverside,etc.), they didn't do as well in the playoffs. Regardless, I'd say 40-5 with 3 conference titles, 1 Eastern runner-up, and 1 State runner-up is a pretty good run over the past 3 seasons is a pretty good run (unless you're from Richmond County or Independence, of course)...

  • setchamps99 Nov 25, 2012
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    What im saying is if they play a good team out of there comfort zone they will know where they stand. Why not schedule a tougher non conference schedule. At least one game

  • Patriot50 Nov 25, 2012
    Veteran

    Sure, if only Garner had played a Richmond or Scotland early in the year, they could have advanced deep into the playoffs... maybe that would have been the difference maker on the final goal-line play against Britt. Right. I might buy this logic if not for Garner's recent playoff record: 2010 3rd round (loss to state runner up); 2011 State Finals (loss to state champion); 2012 4th round. It's not like they bowed out early to an inferior opponent. It was a 50-50 game against Britt - beat'em by a score last year, lost by a score this year. Great season Trojans, congrats and good luck Britt!

  • setchamps99 Nov 25, 2012
    Veteran

    Its all about non conference scheduling for garner....its gets them more times than not

  • Patriot50 Nov 25, 2012
    Veteran

    Whatever it was, no question it hurt not having him on the field. Either way, Britt was hard to handle and made the plays to win.

  • teammugs Nov 25, 2012
    Sports Legend

    So Hines had a concussion, a bad knee, and was sick...an injury report worthy of the NFL...whatever it is that ails him I hope he gets over it soon...

  • 3forme Nov 25, 2012
    Veteran

    Actually Hines had a bum knee for all that really want to know and as far as the schools we play, the NCHSAA determines our conference alignment..Trojans had a great run and I'm really proud of them. For all that don't care for us, I guess you'll just have to continue doing that next year..Not trying to be ugly, just tired of all others talking us down..

  • Patriot50 Nov 24, 2012
    Veteran

    Yes they have (although Garner leads after the Fall sports season this year). Garner has finished 2nd to them several years in a row, due mainly to Clayton's overall comparative strengths in things like wrestling, men's golf, tennis, etc. Both great programs, both with their own sets of advantages and disadvantages, like every other school. Hope they can keep it going without Coach Fowler and Coach Smith...

  • randythorntonv3 Nov 24, 2012
    Rookie

    But I believe Clayton has won the Wachovia cup the last few years haven't they

  • Patriot50 Nov 24, 2012
    Veteran

    Actually, GMHS has 2400 students this year. So of course its advantage, just like great athletes, good coaching, and strong community support are (all additional advantages that Garner has). And if you'd like, as you have suggested, we can compare program strength in other sports as well, in the appropriate HSOT forum of course. So let's see, 2012 football? Garner. 2012 Boy's basketball? Garner. 2012 Volleyball? Garner. 2012 Boy's soccer? Garner. 2012 Girl's basketball? Ok, you got us there. Guess I'd have to click on "more forums" to continue, but you get the point. Just call Clayton and Garner what they both are - two great schools with proud athletic traditions.

  • BattlingBishop 5 Nov 24, 2012
    Sports Legend

    Agreed...that is an advantage, never said it wasn't.

  • randythorntonv3 Nov 24, 2012
    Rookie

    So how many students attend Garner?

    Never mind. I found it. 2311 students. Clayton is around 1600.

    Garner has almost 2 extra classes of kids to draw from in athletics. Over 700 kids. But I doubt you think that is an advantage.

  • BattlingBishop 5 Nov 24, 2012
    Sports Legend

    ^Negative! Trojans & Rams only & you can take that to the e-bank.

  • randythorntonv3 Nov 24, 2012
    Rookie

    Don't worry I am sure there will be another team that will be good in the coming years you can latch onto like you have with Garner and Cleveland.

    So how many students does Garner have in the HS?

  • BattlingBishop 5 Nov 24, 2012
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    "And my team already has and will whip your team in hoops and baseball." randy

    How often has that happened since they've been playing? "And will" is your opinion & I'm very proud of GT & Cleveland. Why wouldn't you be proud of your team? If you're having doubts, you're not much of a fan.

  • randythorntonv3 Nov 24, 2012
    Rookie

    Let your little Rams play teams schedule and see how that works out. When they play someone, they lose.
    And my team already has and will whip your team in hoops and baseball.

    All sports count. Enjoy your off season.

    Garner recruits. Fact. Only team in the Greater Neuse that plays 4AA. Why is that?

    Ignore the facts all you want. I am very proud of my team

  • BattlingBishop 5 Nov 24, 2012
    Sports Legend

    "Battling , maybe you could monitor the parking lots at Cleveland before the bus leaves for away games. I am sure that would help." posted by Mr. Vicarious

    Poor l'il guy thinks he's a comedian. Not funny....not even close but I digress.

    Garner finished the season 14 - 1 & soundly defeated YOUR team.

    Cleveland finished the season 12 - 2 & made it further in the playoffs than YOUR team. (3rd round)

    YOUR team finished the season 9 - 4 & tallied more losses than GT & Cleveland combined. I do believe 3 < 4....dems the facts, randolph.

    Just a l'il info. to chew on for a l'il while.

  • kmagnusson Nov 24, 2012
    Sports Legend

    I remember the deep throws that the Britt quarterback made last year and he is throwing them the same this year. He throws a high hail Mary regardless of pass rush and let's that extremely talented receiver adjust to the ball. Not only is the receiver fast but he can jump. This pass won't work against Butler. Butler 48 Britt 14.

  • randythorntonv3 Nov 24, 2012
    Rookie

    Battling , maybe you could monitor the parking lots at Cleveland before the bus leaves for away games. I am sure that would help.

  • randythorntonv3 Nov 24, 2012
    Rookie

    Battling, sorry, not into deciphering your clues. Just say what you want to say.

  • dfmlythr Nov 24, 2012
    Sports Legend

    (L'il randi)

    Good one! I've been laughing hard since last night!

  • BattlingBishop 5 Nov 24, 2012
    Sports Legend

    @aii

    Your team? I do believe you were sitting after the 1st round, if not sooner.

  • aii3752 Nov 24, 2012
    Sports Legend

    Battling Bishop 5

    Go sit down until next season.

  • BattlingBishop 5 Nov 24, 2012
    Sports Legend

    L'il randi, they don't need me over there as they're doing just fine. However, it's obvious to me that you're clearly involved with your team. Read between the lines, kid!

  • randythorntonv3 Nov 24, 2012
    Rookie

    Aww Battling, so one of your teams recruits and loses and the other has to suspend players for illegal activity and loses. You must be so proud.

    Maybe you should help out at the schools you think you are so brilliant. Maybe you could make a difference.

  • BattlingBishop 5 Nov 24, 2012
    Sports Legend

    @randithornton

    If that gets you through the day, keep sharing that neat little story. Just living down to the company I keep on here.

  • BattlingBishop 5 Nov 24, 2012
    Sports Legend

    "Mugs, you are correct, you can't prove that they do." randithornton

    ...followed by

    "I know that GT does though." randithornton again

    Only a genius would come up with something like that....lol

  • randythorntonv3 Nov 24, 2012
    Rookie

    Battling, thanks you once again lived down to my expectations of you.

    And not sure what the you aren't as good as you are comment means, but good for you.

    And I don't make excuses I provide facts.

    Should be interesting to see what kids magically appear at Garner Magnet next year.

  • BattlingBishop 5 Nov 24, 2012
    Sports Legend

    "maybe you missed the soap opera that went down with the hiring of Britt's new HC this year...that's what I meant by background noise (especially after 2 not so close home losses)..." posted by teammugs

    In that case...my bad. Don't follow Britt but I heard there were some unhappy Britt fans earlier in the season.

    Regarding Hines, I figured you would know the answer to that one as often as you comment on him.

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