HighSchool OT

well this years apex team is the greatest team in schools history by making it to the thrid round and i think that they will make it all the way.

jayz3592
November 23, 2008 3:02 a.m.
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Green Hope actually lost 22-13 to South View, and I believe it was 22-6 at halftime... Wasn't even close. In fact, Green Hope probably should have lost the game before that when they played New Bern. They were losing 19-0 at half time, and they came back and won either 20-19 or 21-19, can't remember.

As for the history... It's irrelevant on the playing field. Sure, it's something to be proud of, something fans can talk about, but ask the players about the 1930 team... None of them are going to know anything about it. It goes for Millbrook, Garner, Apex - all of the schools with a history. A rich tradition does not make the receivers catch footballs, it doesn't allow the kicker to nail a 52 yarder, it doesn't allow the defense to sack the opposing quarterback. The only thing that matters in this year's game's is this year.

Nick Stevens
November 21, 2008 10:12 a.m.
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oldtimecoach: Again, show me a quote where I said "Tri-8 is better than the Cap-7." I never said it. I know as well as anybody that this year the big 3 from the Cap-7 were must better than the best of the Tri-8 (Fuquay and Apex). The Cap-7 had a great 2008 campaign just like the Tri-8 had a great year in 2004 when Green Hope went to the 4AA east regional final and lost to Southview by 3.

As for your second point. You say Apex's 90 year football history doesn't matter. That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I disagree, it's that simple. Do you live in Apex, did you attend school at Apex, did you play at Apex? If you didn't, then of course it won't matter to you and we will never agree.

jrcostilow
November 20, 2008 11:59 p.m.
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Oh...and those 1930 and 1931 games? I'm an Apex fan and didn't even know about them. They don't matter. Neither does Northern's history anymore. Nobody's afraid to go there and play anymore. Programs that have been winning and are still winning--that matters. Garner. Richmond. Independence (and that one's not old by the way). There are new traditions being built. The WFR and Leesville kids that are playing now are building on those and the kids coming into those programs buy into that. Fuquay may be headed there as well. I think you do have something sort of like that at Apex with the string of winning seasons. The players who come in know the expectations, although I don't think it's at the same level of expectation necessarily as those others.

oldtimecoach
November 20, 2008 4:44 p.m.
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jrcostilow, I probably consider myself more of an Apex fan than any other area team. I've seen quite a few of their games over the last 10 or so years and have even been called an Apex homer an a message board. However, this "Tri-8 is better than Cap-7" stuff is nonsense. Apex is not better than WFR, Leesville or Millbrook. They are on a par with the rest of the Cap-7, good games with any of them they might play. The same with Fuquay. The rest of the Tri-8? No. Almost all of them lose almost anytime they play any of the rest of the Cap-7. Just telling it like it is. Outside the Cap-7, look what SER did to Cary and look what Cary did to the rest of the Tri-8 to get a clue. The Tri-8 is weak, everyone who is not irrationally biased knows it. I hope Apex gets by Hoggard this week, I think they can keep it close--I may go see them. I think Fuquay has a good shot. Middle Creek will have a tough time. The rest of the league is where it should be--playing basketball.

oldtimecoach
November 20, 2008 4:39 p.m.
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I'm just saying that it is crazy to say that the traditions of programs like Richmond, Southview, 71st, Garner, Byrd, and even Northern Durham when they won the championship in 1993 don't matter. Tradition may not directly influence the outcome of a game, but it is without a doubt one of the most important elements of the game of football. Tradition is what makes the games important. If tradition didn't matter, no one would care about the games except for the 22 guys on the field and the coaches. Take Apex, we played for the state championship in 1930 and 1931, losing close games to Reidsville both years. but my grand daddy and his buddies still go to the games and talk about how good those teams were they had back then. Now, that's not going to make anybody win a game today, but people remember

jrcostilow
November 20, 2008 12:19 a.m.
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oh i know i wasnt disagreeing with your point jrcostilow, i was talking to dfmlythr

honkodeler
November 19, 2008 8:31 p.m.
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(I'm not saying it is the definitive element in the championship equation, but it is an important part and cannot be passed off as a non-factor.)

Thanks for explaining jrcostilow...

dfmlythr
November 19, 2008 7:04 p.m.
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You can't say that the past and traditions that go back that far don't matter at all. I'm not saying it is the definitive element in the championship equation, but it is an important part and cannot be passed off as a non-factor.

jrcostilow
November 19, 2008 5:34 p.m.
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I attend one of the Oldest school in East Texas, Robert E. Lee high school. When we won the State Chapmionship it wasn't becuase of the previous 45 years the high school was around. It was simply because our team was more talented, and wanted it for themselves, not their uncles. This playoff is the same way. It will come down to the most talented team with the least mistakes. Thats why every team is still a contender.

nascar001fan
November 19, 2008 4:55 p.m.
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