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  • hsfootballraleigh Apr 19, 2013
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    Phil Jackson

  • looseygoosey42 Apr 18, 2013
    Towel Boy

    So WFR looking for ANOTHER Bball coach huh.... Shocker there huh. Guesses on who??

  • looseygoosey42 Feb 13, 2013
    Towel Boy

    "Used to be" are the key words..... he only coached bball 1 season, they had 3 wins or so?? If you are a PE teacher it is assumed that you will coach any sport they tell you too. (especially if you want the head football job someday) Thats part of your job description, not your commitment. Its just like morning or lunch duty. He made the right choice though, he's a much better fball coach.

    Well I can tell you that things are not always as they seem. There has been change after change with the bball staff since Chuck Hess. (Funny that Hess was the AD too.) Since then you have had coach after coach step in and not have any success. Mark my words... you are going to see another change in the near future.

    Remember - Reputation is what the world thinks; character is what it really is.

  • cap8fan Feb 13, 2013
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    I completely and 100% agree with you. But, I do know that Coach Lucas does not do that. He used to be the head basketball coach and head track coach when he was an assistant. That should tell you something about his overall commitment to the athletic program at WFR and not just football.

    I think the kids make their own choices and I can tell you for a fact that it is not based on anything that Reggie has said. Probably more worried about kids who are at workouts getting better and taking their position is why kids decide to not to miss.

    Practices in the summer are limited to 3 hours before 10am or after 5pm and I do not know a coach in the state that goes for three straight hours in the summer heat. If I am correct, WFR goes three days per week in the morning (4 if they have a 7-on-7) for 2 -2.5 hours.

    The workouts are voluntary so if the player wanted to go to basketball practice later in the day, then they could. Players leave workouts and go to work all the time.

  • looseygoosey42 Feb 13, 2013
    Towel Boy

    Cap8fan, I am not sure of the ratio of multi sport athletes between both sports. Probably 2-3 players in a bball program on avg. that play both. I don't think the main issue is "sharing", but more influencing the tops athlete to concentrate, not choose, but concentrate on a given sport. Some schools do more than their due diligence as a coaching staff in influencing athletes to play their sport (1st) during their freshman weight and PE classes.

    As far as permission to play....absolutely. I believe WFR coaches have to let their players play what they want just like the rules state. However, maybe issues arise about "priorities, leadership etc..." when scheduling conflicts arise .... or if I have practice 3-4 hours every day in the summer a.m., it sometimes makes the choice a bit easier because they are beat up for the rest of the day. 10 minutes of playing time at AAU with 1 practice a week is not going to build a program of skilled players either.

    Lets put it this way...When I was a kid my Dad said I could do a lot of things, but i had no doubt that he may be angry with me or not like the choice I made. I rarely went against that because i didn't want to have him look at me differently. To use this tactic in parenting is fine, but I don't think there is room for it this pressure in HS sports.

  • cap8fan Feb 13, 2013
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    Summer practice at WFR are in the morning. There are a lot of players who go to workouts in the morning and AAU/rec league in the afternoon/evening. I know that coaches will allow players to miss a small number of summer days to do other things in the summer.

    I will agree that the season is long but WFR was a second round knockout last season so players who wanted to play could. Maybe players have lost interest basketball. From what I hear, there aren't many schools have share athletes in football and basketball. Is that true?

    Does the ball coach at WFR allow fball players to tryout after fball season is over?

  • looseygoosey42 Feb 12, 2013
    Towel Boy

    logical?? He makes perfect logic.

    I think what mjjohnson is referring to is the "yr round cycle" or mentality a football program may or may not promote.

    Football starts in the spring and then special small group etc... rolls right into summer camps. What kid can afford to go to a BBall camp AND a football camp.... not many. If they choose football camp instead thats more lost time practicing bball. Then football starts before school even starts and at WFR they play deep into November December sometimes.

    At this point they have been throwing 300lbs around daily and sprinting in 8 second intervals....never having once touched a bball since June or July. Not sure how many bball teams you have seen practice cap8fan, but that ain't conducive to creating a solid bball team.

  • cap8fan Feb 12, 2013
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    Mjjohnson and loosey

    No offense but that is not logical. WFR offers strength classes during the day for credit which frees up the afternoon for players to participate in other sports. In other words, off-season training at WFR happens during school, not after school during the winter which does not conflict with basketball.

    The sport most affected is track because of spring skill development which does occur after school.

  • looseygoosey42 Feb 12, 2013
    Towel Boy

    mjjohnson you are absolutely correct. The shame of it is...it doesn't have to be that way.

  • mjjohnson5573 Feb 12, 2013
    Sports Legend

    Their decline also coincides with the rise of the football program. If some of the better athlete's choose to focus on off season training for football that may thin the talent for basketball as well.

  • lbf83 Feb 12, 2013
    Towel Boy

    You are 100% correct.

  • Patriot50 Feb 11, 2013

    WFR hasn't been the same team since Chuck Hess retired a few years ago. First Wakefield and now Heritage opening haven't helped, but they have not competed at the same level or with the same intensity since he left.

  • lbf83 Feb 10, 2013
    Towel Boy

    WFR lost more than Will Pery.With that being said this years team ought to be ashamed of themselves.They do in fact have several players who are all about themselves and not the TEAM!!!!!Way to much TALENT to lose the games they are losing.

  • looseygoosey42 Feb 6, 2013
    Towel Boy

    I agree Bri, Will was and is a nice little player. Only worth 10 pts and 5 assts a game though, plus maybe a few less turnovers when he was on the floor. I don't know if that is the difference??? Wakefield had them down by 18 or 20 last night and WHS is down this year! They had no heart, no organization.

    However, who is ultimately responsible for off court issues and the academics of the selected players? Who is responsible for the cohesiveness of the team?

  • just brian Feb 6, 2013
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    Will Perry, last year's point guard is now in Hickory playing college ball. That was a huge chunk of leadership taken away.

    They have also had some off the court issues with players this season that I will not elaborate on.

    It comes down to the fact that this team is not a cohesive unit that plays together. They have some good individual players but they don't play together and that has cost them in a tough Cap8 Conference.

  • loedownsports Feb 5, 2013
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    the Cap 8 is loaded.

  • 1975musty Feb 5, 2013

    last years point guard was really really good

  • looseygoosey42 Feb 5, 2013
    Towel Boy

    WFR was much improved the last couple years. Made states etc.... What happened? Soft early season schedule padded win column, but now they have lost 5 of 6....Only lost one guard, lots of returners. Anybody close no what up?

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