Coaching passes not accepted at HSOT tourney

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  • redflamebball Jan 18, 2013
    Veteran

    Why is everyone missing the point on this issue...High School association needs to step up and do what is right in this case

  • Bad Azz Boyz Jan 18, 2013
    Pro

    Easy fix, high school coaches don't support the tournament. Don't allow your teams to participate. That would alleviate the issue!

  • dkent Jan 17, 2013
    Towel Boy

    I'll bet that if Rick Strunk, Carolyn Shannonhouse, or Que Tucker had gone to one of the games, they would have gotten in....lol....just saying....lol

  • dkent Jan 16, 2013
    Towel Boy

    hey ravenrll, that is the same I said earlier in a post back on pg 2 of this thread. It is one of the few perks we get from joining the high school coaches association at the greensboro coaches clinic. If its sanctioned by the NCHSAA then the pass should be honored

  • ravenrll Jan 16, 2013
    Rookie

    The bottom line is that if it was a NCHSAA sanctioned event the passes should have been accepted per the NCHSAA see link below. If its not sanctioned why are our students allowed to play?

    https://www.nchsaa.org/intranet/downloadManagerControl.php?mode=getFile&elementID=5907&type=5&atomID=12714

  • redflamebball Jan 16, 2013
    Veteran

    I agree with tmorrison..the only problem with that statement is the "Professional" part...just as typical..when amateurs are left to manage things like athletic departments and foundations..well there is little professionalism...

  • tmorrison Jan 15, 2013
    Bench Warmer

    I just figured it would be a professional courtesy extended to high school coaches.

  • Nick Stevens Jan 12, 2013
    Sports Legend

    "Reported from others that were present supposedly that St. Joe's said that if they forfeited or was placed in the losers bracket that they just weren't coming."

    The above statement is 100% false.

  • cjhiggins Jan 11, 2013
    Rookie

    Randythornton you cslled Buies Creek "Bowies Creek." You shouldn't throw stones my brother.

  • randythorntonv3 Jan 7, 2013
    Rookie

    ntheweeds, never said they were worthless, just that they think they are entitled.

    And paved roads have been around for quite a while and I see private contractors doing the roads around my house. Not government workers. If govt workers did them it would take twice as long and not be up to standard.

    Dont get me wrong, there are some great govt employees, but I also know many that brag about what they DONT do and how much they get paid and what their pensions will be. And those are my tax dollars.

    And you are correct, I am not a big govt fan.

    And what does the tea party have to do with this? And it is "partier". If you are going to talk junk, at least use proper english.

  • ntheweeds Jan 7, 2013
    All Star

    Just like I though Randy you are one of those tea partyers who think government employees are worthless...glad you are enjoying those nice paved roads you are driving on...I guess those just build themselves

  • ntheweeds Jan 7, 2013
    All Star

    I should have been more precise in my statement. Some sports, you have to get on the pass list. But normally you need to be an established coach with a relationship with the program. But all of it is as a result of having a high school coaching position.

    All of this is beside the point though as the folks running this tournament should be allowing at lest the area basketball coaches admission to the games. Simply put!!!

  • dcz Jan 6, 2013
    Rookie

    ntheweeds you can't get in to most college basketball games with the pass.you usually can use it for area football games.Some ACC schools accept the pass but not all. UNC baseball accepts the pass but NC state baseball does not.I have tried to use my pass at duke soccer and lacross games and they don't accept the pass.

  • randythorntonv3 Jan 6, 2013
    Rookie

    Ntheweeds. What principle is it the matter of. It is a tournament to raise money for scholarships. If your team plays in it, I agree, the AD should get in. But if your team is not in it you should have to pay like the rest of the public.

    And as I said before, the tournament will continue to thrive without your support and not sure by your tea party statement, but if that means, work hard, pay taxes and enjoy life and not depend on the government to maintain a good life style, I plead guilty.

  • aii3752 Jan 6, 2013
    Sports Legend

    Look if its a problem then just don't go because for as long as this tourney has been going on no passes have been accepted so why should they star now. !975 musty teams are invited and if the nchsaa doesn't support it they will get other teams and officials to call the games and they will just charge more money at the gate to offset cost. $12.00for a high school basketball game is to much.

  • 1975musty Jan 6, 2013
    Pro

    idea? why not petition the NCHSAA to stop supporting the tournament? without support there will be no local teams. pretty simple solution. i completely understand why coaches are upset. use their teams and athletes to make money, but dont respect them enough to allow entrance. somewhere in history it was termed exploitation.

  • ntheweeds Jan 6, 2013
    All Star

    randythorntony3: It is simply a matter of principle. Either way I will not step foot in the tournament with having to pay. Foolish argument..sounds like you are a part of the Tea Party movement. typical!!!

  • Youngbuck Jan 5, 2013
    Rookie

    I don't coach but I understand where everyone is coming from. If I coached I would think I should get in the games free. If this was a private tournament with only private schools without any NCHSAA schools then it would be a different ball game.

    The athletic director should definitely get in free, thats an extension of the team regardless.

  • randythorntonv3 Jan 5, 2013
    Rookie

    Nthe, folks have choices. If that is not enough of a stipend then don't coach.

    I get a little tired of hearing folks complain about the coaching pay. I know plenty of folks who would and can coach.

    And why should you get free admission?

  • ntheweeds Jan 5, 2013
    All Star

    All NCHSAA coaches should be able to get into this tounament for free. With my pass I can get into any college game. I have even gone to other states and been able to gain admission to the game. Although the Education Foundation that puts on this tournament says that all of the funds go to scholarships, which of course is not completely true, they are not loosing revenue to by allow the coaches admission. In face if anything they are loosing revenue by not allowing them in the door. I would gladly pas for my wife and kids to come.

    randythorntonv3: By the way anytime you want to get paid $2500 for coaching an entire season please let me know. The least we can get is an addmisson to this tournament.

  • randythorntonv3 Jan 5, 2013
    Rookie

    Patriot, I do not agree with that one.

  • Patriot50 Jan 5, 2013
    Veteran

    Not only were passes not accepted, in at least one case, a participating school's ATHLETIC DIRECTOR was charged admission to come support his school's team - unbelievable! Understand there has to be rules, but what about some common sense???

  • randythorntonv3 Jan 5, 2013
    Rookie

    Typical government type employees wanting a freebie. Pay the 12 bucks or head on home. The tournament is great and if you can only watch great basketball and players you do not normally see in NC for free then I feel sorry for you.

  • tmorrison Jan 5, 2013
    Bench Warmer

    It is always a good tournament and I try to go, but I was shocked they didn't accept the coaches' pass. I would think that they would have to if there are teams from the NCHSAA in it; has to be a sanctioned event for them to play.

    They did the same thing at the Brogden in Wilmington this year.

    Must be all about making money.

  • db33lockdown Jan 4, 2013
    Pro

    I don't understand why people are being so critical of such a good tournament that does a lot for high school basketball in this area. Why the hate? Please don't answer...just stop hating. It is and has been a great venue, one of the best in the Nation actually so I just hope tournament officials aren't listening to the complainers.

  • waggle right Jan 4, 2013
    Sports Legend

    Is this a NCHSAA sanctioned event? If so how much did they make off of the tournament?

  • waggle right Jan 4, 2013
    Sports Legend

    It does not surprise me form Bad is reporting. I would not give the tournament a nickel.

  • Bad Azz Boyz Jan 4, 2013
    Pro

    Who picks the teams that are to represent the local participants, some of those teams seemed questionable, what are the criteria for being selected to compete. Some teams are strong traditional NC powers while others left a lot to be desired.

  • Bad Azz Boyz Jan 4, 2013
    Pro

    Reported from others that were present supposedly that St. Joe's said that if they forfeited or was placed in the losers bracket that they just weren't coming.

  • capitalwildcat66 Jan 4, 2013
    All Star

    St.Joseph couldn't make the tourney on time, couldn't travel due to bad weather....
    won the game against Holly Springs due to a coin flip...LOL...

    seems they should have been forced to forfeit...or had the game postponed to the next day....

    felt bad for Holly Springs....

  • ncelite Jan 4, 2013
    Towel Boy

    What happened with the Holly Springs/St. Joseph debacle?

  • dkent Jan 2, 2013
    Towel Boy

    I'm so glad I did not try to go to the games as I intended to do. As a high school coach I would not have paid to get in. I do believe that if these games are sanctioned by the high school athletic association then coaching passes from the NCCA must be honored. If these games are not sanctioned by the NCHSAA, then our state teams may not be allowed to participate. I'm not sure about this but it may be worth looking into. That's one of the perks of going and joining the North Carolina Coaches' Association.

  • cjhiggins Jan 1, 2013
    Rookie

    Randythornton where is Bowies Creek? I'm not familiar with the place.

  • randythorntonv3 Jan 1, 2013
    Rookie

    Bad *z, I would love that.

  • randythorntonv3 Jan 1, 2013
    Rookie

    Bad , I would love that.

  • Bad Azz Boyz Jan 1, 2013
    Pro

    Looks like this tournament is headed for a national invitation level and isn't planning to keep the local interest. Shouldn't be long now, you have to treat the locals with more respect than that. already a balck eye with the whole Holly Springs/St.Joseph debacle, those that actually know the situation understand

  • ntheweeds Dec 31, 2012
    All Star

    I did not know that he NCHSAA passes did not allow high coaches to attend the event. I will not pay $12 to get in. These people need to see what the tournament is really about. I can't say I am surprised thought...just look at Congress...we can't complain about the kids being selfish if we are going to allow pure greed to get in the way of everything.

  • randythorntonv3 Dec 31, 2012
    Rookie

    Aii, sorry, but people who live and attend the games at Broughton will not drive to Bowies Creek.

    The only alternative would be someplace else in the triangle.

    Glad to hear it Nick.

  • aii3752 Dec 31, 2012
    Sports Legend

    People will come to see good basketball where ever it is played

  • Nick Stevens Dec 31, 2012
    Sports Legend

    I don't anticipate there being a change in venue in the foreseeable future, I personally would not support it. Broughton has history with the tournament, and it's a large HS gym. It is an intimate setting for fans and teams, and we like that it can be a tough ticket to get. It makes the atmosphere so much better.

    Campbell does have a very nice facility though!

  • randythorntonv3 Dec 30, 2012
    Rookie

    No matter how good it is, someone always complains.

    Dunn is too far from Raleigh and not as many folks would travel.

    Used to be in Reynolds. Broughton is a nice venue and it is a smoothly run tournament.

  • aii3752 Dec 30, 2012
    Sports Legend

    I say nick move the tourney to a college arena. gore arena on the campus of campbell university would be a great site. It seats a litle over 3500 and standing room could fit another 1000. I say if you have big time college recruits at least give the other kids a chance to play in a college arena and atmosphere and i'm sure campbell will give profits for scholorships.

  • Nick Stevens Dec 30, 2012
    Sports Legend

    We don't make those decisions, that is made by the Triangle Education Advancement Foundation, a non-profit that runs the tournament and uses all the money made for college scholarships for local students.

  • Bad Azz Boyz Dec 30, 2012
    Pro

    What's up with not allowing NCHSAA certified coaches admittance to the HSOT tourney at Broughton High, why was that decision made HSOT staff, site supposedly all about high school sports, seems kind of contradictory.

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